TANONG #1

totoo bang may sangkatutak na ginto ang mga marcos na nakaimbak kung saansaan sa mundo?  

sabi ni imee marcos noong kampanya niya for senator, 2018, HINDI TOTOO.

“I think it’s fun to think of all the gold, and it continues to be urban legend. I’ve never seen any gold. I’ve heard about it being talked about constantly pero wala namang nakikita, wala naman kaming napapakinabangan, wala namang nabenta.” she said. https://www.dailypedia.net/2021/11/

pero sabi ni enrique zobel noong october 1999, TOTOO.

… in a 14-page sworn statement issued before the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee at the Philippine Consulate in Honolulu between October 27 and 29, 1999 … Zobel said Marcos had $100 billion in his name and part of it was $35 billion in gold bars.

Zobel said Marcos, then weak and ailing, showed him original certificates of the gold bars worth $35 billion, then based on the prevailing price of $400 per ounce, after Marcos asked to borrow some $250 million several months after the Marcos family landed in Hawaii. Marcos signed a promissory note for the loan, with the certificates meant to prove he could pay him back. The promissory note was dated October 17, 1988, one day before was indicted in the United States.

Apart from the gold certificates, which came mostly from Germany, Zobel said Marcos had in possession two more tranches of gold from Suriname, a sovereign state in the northeastern Atlantic coast of South America. In all, he estimated that Marcos had total wealth of some $100 billion. When Flavier asked him if he heard it right, Zobel replied: “Yes, $100 billion.” That was in 1989. https://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/09/21/17/

sabi rin ni imelda marcos kay former manila mayor lito atienza, bandang late 1990s or early 2000, TOTOO.

Former Manila Mayor Lito Atienza, now Buhay party-list representative, said on Wednesday that Imelda Marcos, the widow of dictator Ferdinand Marcos, once confided to  him that her family kept 7,000 tons of gold deposited all over the world. Atienza said Imelda, now an Ilocos Norte representative, claimed that she had offered to pay off the country’s foreign debt with the gold but she supposedly could not touch the money due to the interference of a “superpower.” The congressman said Imelda made the revelation in a private talk some time in the late 1990s or early 2000s at a wedding in which both of them stood as sponsors.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/926920/

sabi rin ni imelda kay mel tiangco ng GMA Network noong july 2013 sa interview na naganap sa marcos ancestral house sa san juan, TOTOO.

While going through the “war” room where Imelda mentioned documents amongst the 170 banks around the world where FM had deposits, she then brought to Tiangco’s attention a “bill of lading” which showed an amount of $249 billion dollars. https://www.youtube.com/

at sabi rin ng supporters / propagandists ni bongbong sa youtube, TOTOO. sangdamakmak, ONE MILLION METRIC TONS! https://www.youtube.com/watch

TANONG #2

kung totoong may sangkatutak na marcos gold, saan galing ang gintong ito?  

ayon kay mrs. marcos noong february 1992 — kakauwi niya noon at hinaharap ang mga kasong ill-gotten wealth filed by the PCGG — galing ang yaman nila, hindi sa kaban ng bayan, kundi sa ginto ng yamashita treasure.

Imelda Marcos claimed Monday that her late husband’s fortune was based on Japanese and other gold he found after World War II and not on funds embezzled from the Philippine treasury. She said President Ferdinand Marcos never disclosed the existence of gold to tax authorities because the amount was so huge ″it would be embarrassing″  https://apnews.com/article/ 

ayon din sa artikulong “Soldiers of Fortune: ‘We were there, we dug up gold'” na una daw nalathala sa Inquirer noong 1995 (sabi sa isang website, 2005 sabi sa isa pa), si marcos daw ay unang nagpahukay ng yamashita treasure noong 1965 at itinuloy noong  martial law hanggang 1981.  ang source of information ay mga sundalo ng 16th Infantry Battalion na naghukay daw for the yamashita treasure as part of Task Force Restoration under gen. fabian ver.

The soldiers said even before martial rule in 1972, Marcos had already successfully excavated gold bullions and gemstones at the Manila Railroad Company (MRRCO, now PNR) yard complex at Tutuban terminal. This was at the start of his first term as president from 1965 to 1969. He started treasure digging when elected president in 1965 but could not finish it in four years; thus the need to employ soldiers to continue the work under Task Force Restoration when he was re-elected.

The soldiers claimed that in all, they excavated and retrieved more than 60,000 metric tons of gold bars, bullions, and other precious metals such as palladium, platinum, chrome, nickel, zinc and little babbitt bars. There were precious gems such as diamonds, both cut and uncut. Among the “major” treasure sites which the soldiers had dug up were in Caliraya in Cavinti-Lumban, Laguna; Baras and Teresa in Rizal province; Montalban caves in Montalban, Rizal; Montalban Mascat; Sitio Mayagay, Sampaloc in Tanay, Rizal; Fort Bonifacio Tunnel; Fort Bonifacio hospital; the area of the Manpower and Youth building; Bastion de San Lorenzo in Fort Santiago; Muñoz in Nueva Ecija; Balok bridge, also in Nueva Ecija; site of the Central Luzon State University statue in Muñoz; Sta. Fe in Nueva Vizcaya; Campo 4 in San Jose, Nueva Vizcaya; and San Mateo in Rizal province.

The gold bars dug by the soldiers were stored in the vaults of the old Central Bank in Intramuros. Later, in the mid-1970s, Marcos “ordered the construction of a new and modern coin and gold minting and refining plant of the Central Bank along East Avenue in Diliman, Quezon City.”

According to the soldiers, this was to “further accommodate voluminous bulk of Yamashita gold bars and bullions for remelting” to change their original forms and markings which included the countries where the gold came from.

… The different gold bars that the soldiers dug up had inscriptions such as “Cambodia” with five star markings; “Sumatra” with four stars; “Burma” with three stars, and other marks identical to the countries of their origin. The Cambodia gold bars weighed 6.3 kilograms each; the Sumatra gold bars weighed 6.2 kg each; and the Burma bars weighed around 6 kg each.
http://tuong2008.blogspot.com/2008/08/
https://www.treasurenet.com/
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/

ayon kina carmen pedrosa at senator ernie maceda at sa PCGG, tiyak na may marcos gold na nanggaling  sa CENTRAL BANK reserves mismo.

[before 1978] private mining companies and individual operators sold their gold ore to private export firms or to the government. The ore was sent to England and the United States, where it was refined and converted into bullion that helped support the Philippine currency.

Initially, “the whole system was in private hands,” Maceda said. “There was no easy way Marcos could get at it.” But in 1978, under martial law, Marcos ordered the entire system placed in the hands of the government. By decree, Marcos ruled that all gold mined in the Philippines had to be sold to the Central Bank, which built a refinery to process it.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/

Marcos  opened the Central Bank Gold Refinery and Mint in Quezon City [1978]. It is said that this was where the gold could have been minted into international standards of exchange.

The LA Times reported that 6.325 metric tons of gold was unaccounted for in the Central Bank. Between 1978, the year Marcos ordered all gold producers to sell only to the CB, and end 1984, the Bureau of Mines reported that 124,234 pounds of gold were refined. But the CB reported it received only 110,319 pounds during this same period. That left a difference of 13,915 pounds (6.325 metric tons).
https://www.philstar.com/opinion/2017/09/01/

pero ayon sa mga YouTube video ng marcos camp since 2011, galing daw ang ginto sa isang tallano clan na ubod ng yaman at dati’y may-ari ng buong pilipinas — mga kadugo, kamaganak daw, nina queen elizabeth, jose rizal, adolf hitler, at yamashita — na pinamanahan si marcos ng tone-toneladang ginto dahil napakagaling daw nito na abogado, or something like that.  a wildly ridiculous and convoluted fairytale that former chief justice meilou sereno and historian xiao chua have disputed discredited debunked.
http://www.positivelyfilipino.com/magazine/
https://www.facebook.com/profile/

MALINAW na pinasadyang tugon ang kuwentong tallano gold BILANG PAGTANGGI sa mga paratang, at hatol ng mga korte, na magnanakaw ang mga marcos.  paulit-ulit ang mensahe ng marcos propagandists na ang kayamanan ng mga marcos ay hindi nakaw sa kaban ng bayan kundi galing sa ginto na lehitimong pag-aari ni marcos.

TANONG #3 

bakit kumambiyo ang kuwentong marcos gold papalayo sa yamashita treasure?  

kasi, kung sa yamashita treasure nga galing ang kayamanan ng mga marcos, ibig sabihin ay hindi ito lehitimong pag-aari ni marcos.  NAKAW NA YAMAN din ito — ninakaw, sinamsam, ng  japan sa asian countries na sinakop nito noong world war 2.

tila ito rin ang dahilan kung bakit palihim o di hayag ang treasure hunting operations and findings ever, dahil kung / pag may nahahanap na ginto at alahas atbp., nangingialam at nakiki-angkin siyempre ang mga bansang pinagnakawan.  at tila iyan na nga mismo ang nangyari, kung paniniwalaan ang 1989 research di-umano ng press secretary ni cory na si conrado limcaoco into the yamashita gold na supposedly ay na-recover ni marcos.

The 12 Asian countries conquered and plundered by Japan in World War II … believe they have a stake in this as it was from their countries that the Japanese took it from. Marcos struck deals with many of these Asian countries. He shipped back some of the gold to them in return for a share in the booty. For example, the gold shipped back to Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, and India are reportedly split now at 70% of the particular country and 30% for Marcos. Japan allegedly has been promised 50% of Marcos 30% in these Asian settlements. Mrs. Yamashita has alleged shares in some of the gold stock in Asia.
https://kahimyang.com/

TANONG #4 

bakit humadlang / humahadlang ang “superpower” sa pagbawi o pagbenta ni imelda sa gintong itinago daw ni marcos kung saansaan sa mundo?  

ayon sa review ni chalmers johnson (London Review of Books) ng librong Gold Warriors: America’s Secret Recovery of Yamashita’s Gold (2003) by Sterling and Peggy Seagraves, mula’t sapul ay sangkot hindi lang si marcos kundi ang mga amerikano rin, led by gen. douglas macarthur, sa pag-recover ng yamashita treasure hindi lang dito sa pilipinas kundi sa japan din noong matapos ang world war 2.

Back in Washington, it was decided at the highest levels, presumably by Truman, to keep these discoveries secret and to funnel the money into various off-the-books slush funds to finance the clandestine activities of the CIA. One reason, it has been alleged, was to maintain the price of gold and the system of fixed currency exchange rates based on gold, which had been decided at Bretton Woods in 1944. Just like the South African diamond cartel, Washington’s plotters feared what would happen if this much ‘new’ gold was suddenly injected into world markets.
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/

dahil kakontsaba siya di-umano ng mga kano sa pagtago ng recovered yamashita gold, akala siguro ni marcos ay exempted siya sa rules at maiibenta niya kahit kailan niya gusto ang gintong sinasabing inilagak niya sa 170 banks around the world.

ANG PROBLEMA, by the time napatalsik siya nuong 1986, sikat na sikat na siya bilang big-time magnanakaw — nahirang pa sa Guiness Book of World Records na “Greatest Robber of a Government”.  malamang, dahil sa current (and future) claims of ill-gotten wealth filed (and yet to be filed) by the philippine government re all these hidden assets, di na basta basta ine-entertain ng mga bangko at depositaryo ang mga effort ng mga tagapagmana ni marcos na mag-withdraw o magbenta ng sinasabing yaman.

TANONG #5 

bakit no-comment si bongbong tungkol sa mga youtube video na nangangakong pag nahalal siya ay gagamitin niya ang ginto para iangat ang pilipinas sa utang gutom, at kahirapan?  

dahil hindi niya ina-acknowledge o kinukumpirma ang mga pangako ng kanyang supporters sa mga botante, baka ibig sabihin ay hindi niya kailangang tumupad sa mga pangakong pabuya’t ginhawa kung sakaling mahalal siya sa 2022.

palagay ko rin, atat na atat siyang maging pangulo hindi para sa ikauunlad ng bayan kundi para sa  ikagaganda ikababango ng pangalang marcos.

bilang pangulo, given the mandate of the people, magkakaroon siya ng poiitical leverage, as in, hindi na siya basta-basta maiisnab ng superpower na umisnab kay imelda.

hindi ako sure kung kakayanin niya, bilang pangulo, na ipatigil for good ang mga kasong ill-gotten wealth, pero sure ako na mapipilitang makipag-negotiate sa pamilyang marcos ang mga kano, alang alang sa US bases sa pampanga, nueva ecija, cagayan de oro, cebu, at palawan under the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement (EDCA) na up for renewal in 2026.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Defense_Cooperation_Agreement

TANONG #6   

kung sakaling suwertihin nang katakut-takot ang mga marcos — manalo si bongbong, magoyo ang mga kano, makabenta ng ginto atbp. — makinabang din kaya ang pilipinas o sila-sila lang?  

maari naman, kung maniniwala tayo, kahit walang pruweba, na iba si marcos jr. kay marcos sr.

pero dahil buking na buking na sinungaling ang mga marcos — wala daw silang nakaw na yaman gayong napatunayan na sa mga korte dito at sa amerika na ninakawan nina ferdinand at imelda, tinuring na piggy bank, ang kaban ng bayan — kaduda-duda na tutupad si bongbong sa  pangakong golden age finally para sa pinas.

TANONG #7  

kaya ba ni marcos jr. na magpatakbo ng gobiyerno?  

may sabi-sabi na kung mananalo si marcos jr., ang malamang na magpapatakbo ng gobiyerno ay si ate imee at ang asawang si lisa araneta (kung hindi si gloria arroyo).  parang kapanipaniwala ito dahil wala naman tayong proof of statesmanship — i.e., skill in managing public affairs — on bongbong’s part.  “lazy and carefree” nga, in the words of his dad.  (cocaine adik pa nga daw, sabi ni dutz.)

ang tsismis back in they days ay si imee talaga ang chosen one ni marcos noong maysakit na siya, kaya lang ay hindi pa ito handa noon, kaya si imelda muna ang  pinangalanan niyang successor.

maaaring ito rin ang dahilan kung bakit noong si imee marcos ang tinanong tungkol sa ginto ay deny-to-death ang drama, tatawa-tawa lang.

hedging their bets, kumbaga.  no promises, no obligations,  just back in business with a lot of motherhood, or should i say fatherhood, statements.  so marcosian.  like father, like daughter.

#RememberArchimedesTrajano #BlockMarcos #NeverAgain

 

in april 2016, on the vp campaign trail,  marcos jr. said he would only apologize for the sins he might have committed in his 27 years in office as former ilocos norte governor, congressman, and senator.  now on the presidential campaign trail he has yet to acknowledge and apologize for not paying his correct taxes while he was governor. most likely on the advice of his abogados de campanilla in the disqualification cases filed against him sa comelec.

meanwhile, as comelec takes its sweet time deciding the case, the question of whether or not the son, as beneficiary, is answerable for the crimes of the  father continues to be debated. Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino weighs in.

Mea culpa

… there is something interesting that we can learn from law. While criminal liability is extinguished by the death of the accused, civil liability devolves on his estate. There is nothing esoteric nor irrational about these propositions for while death causes the cessation of the existence of him who can say “I did it” of a crime, he leaves behind goods, money and property that can answer for any wrong or harm effected by his transgression. The duty to make amends therefore must be fulfilled in good faith by those who succeed when the wrongdoing of father, mother or relation is established. This demand can be rightly pressed and where the failings and faults of an ascendant have been duly proved, then must the descendants make just amends. Of course, it becomes more difficult to exact these when it is also required that a child repudiate his parent, or accept as his or her own the failing of an antecedent generation.

Some years ago, in his “Teditorials,” Foreign Secretary Teodoro “Teddy Boy” Locsin made the irrefutable statement that it is to demand something unnatural to require of a child that he characterize his own father as a thief, a murderer or a brigand. And it is, of course, as true of a son or daughter that though the guilt not be his or hers, when legally and morally justified, the obligation to restitute or to indemnify most definitely is!

#NeverAgain